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More great stuff, Chris, thanks. This is taking quite the long view on a very current topic... I appreciate how keen Taylor is on separating out recorded history from the popular perception of history.

Jack: it's Taylor's entire reason for writing this book, frankly: to deconstruct the actual history and contrast it to the modern subtraction stories. Yet the book achieves much more than this in its very wide margins; once the historical picture is painted, Taylor is free to explore all sorts of contingent themes, and that's where the book became even more interesting for me.

What I found fascinating about his account of the situation in the 19th century (which is included in this piece) is this idea that Darwin didn't bring a crisis to Christianity, he simply intensified a crisis of belief that was ongoing in society at the time by knocking out the teleological proof for God (which Kant had already demolished a century earlier, but in too abstract a form for it to have taken root in the popular consciousness). The book contains all kind of supporting materials that explore the metaphysical anguish of the Victorians at this time, but alas the serial form requires me to whittle down everything quite substantially.

Best wishes!

Do you think global warming is effecting the pigment in squirrels skin causing them to become darker?

Liane: all squirrel content from now on needs to go to Shadowtail. I've no idea why you choose this post to put this particular comment! :)

But no, it's nothing to do with global warming. The black fur results from an allele of a particular gene that (unlike the equivalent allele for albinism) seems to be dominant - which is to say, the young of a black squirrel are most likely to be black furred also.

Since the black squirrels in an urban or semi-urban environment are often just as or more camouflaged as they were in grey, they can survive, and gradually the dominant black gene overtakes the original grey gene.

It's one of those instances where genetics are actually relevant to interpreting the situation. :)

Thanks for asking - next time, please use the Shadowtail blog. Thank you!

The debate of Science vs. Religion is silly, because it is so broad. As Taylor noted, they are idealogical constructs with a broad array of meanings.

Do you have any input on more specific topics? How about "Science vs. Fundamental Religions?"

I assume when Taylor says "Atheist" he refers to the Atheistic variety that does not deny the possibility of a God, merely the plausibility? The term Atheist has taken on such a broad range of meanings that it is become muddled.

I agree with his ideas on unbelief becoming a religion unto itself. Ironically, many unbelievers have become equally religious as the targets of their crusades.

Quest: thanks for sharing your viewpoint here. And of course, I agree that "religion" versus "science" is such broad territory it is essentially meaningless.

As for "science" vs. "fundamental religions" - I'm not sure even this is the issue. The Amish are not *against* science, but they are fundamentalist. Conversely, Dawkins (for instance) is *against* "fundamental religions" (such as the Amish) and would claim he was for "science", although myself I am less certain of his claim in his regard. (It comes down to what is meant by "science" of course). I think, ironically, what he is against is faith in anything but "science". :p

We always get into trouble when one group wants to determine the epistemic territory for everyone else. (See also this post on Science and the Sacred).

Re: "atheist", none of the Taylor quotes in this piece use the term, so I'm not sure what you are referring to.

"Ironically, many unbelievers have become equally religious as the targets of their crusades."

Well, equally dogmatic. If that's what you mean by "religious", then fair enough - but "religious" in a strict sense is something that unbelievers by definition cannot be. :) This pedantic quibble aside, I do get what you are gesturing at here, and I agree.

We live in interesting times! :)

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