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Sounds like this is going to be fun!

I don't know how much relevancy this would have to your future articles, but author John C. Wright just wrote an article about differences in opinions of religion between A.C. Clarke, C.S. Lewis, and H.G. Wells.

http://johncwright.livejournal.com/243016.html

Hi Chris,
When discussing Battlestar Galactica, if you are talking about the new one, can you VERY CLEARLY mark spoilers :)

I haven't seen the last series yet - they started showing them at midnight here in Oz, without any warning, and so I didn't realise until after they had started. Obviously with a very serial show missing a few episodes (especially the first episode after a cliffhanger) I'm waiting for the DVDs...

So please, don't spoil :)

I usually define science fiction by contrasting it with fantasy. Fantasy explains the unexplainable or impossible aspects of a story with magic or the gods, sci-fi uses technology/science (even if it is fake science) or aliens.

I certainly don't agree with any of the definitions that you quoted any more than you do.

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Mory: "Sounds like this is going to be fun!" I hope so! I've put this back quite a bit to give Battlestar Galactica a chance to finish airing so I could make it more complete. I still have a lot of research to conduct, but I'm looking forward to discussing these subjects and themes with the players here.

DeeMer: thanks for this link! It's timely, actually, as next week will touch on Wells, Stapleton and Lewis - much appreciated!

RodeoClown: all of the sections discussing the specific instances of science fiction will almost certainly contain spoilers, and will be labelled from the beginning "May contain spoilers". I haven't seen the last three episodes of Battlestar Galactica yet so I have no idea if I will be making reference to events in the conclusion, or simply in the prior seasons - but I would advise you to skip the *entire* Battlestar Galactica post as a precautionary measure. You won't need to read this serial part to get the value from the other parts, as each should stand alone. (You can always come back to it when you've caught up).

Sorry for any inconvenience! It's simply too difficult to write about these topics without using spoilers, alas.

Katherine: the problem I have with contrasting science fiction with fantasy is that in the world of the imagination where are the boundaries between "magic/gods" and "technology/science"? Remember Arthur C. Clarke's line "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"? So what's the boundary here? That the characters express in terms of "magic/gods"? Because Conan could take place in a virtual reality, and the magic of the Isari in The Lord of the Rings could be technologically founded! :p

Clearly, there is a practical distinction here - but once again, it's not a boundary we can enforce. Following Wittgenstein, I would say both "science fiction" and "fantasy" are family resemblance categories, and as such they bleed quite readily into one another - quite literally in the case of something like Lawrence Watt-Evans' "The Cyborg and the Sorcerors"!

Looking forward to reading peoples perspectives as we go forward with this. Thanks again for commenting!

I love having unique and different relgions in fictional work of all kinds. I believe that it makes the reading experience much more fascinating and interesting and give it a level of depth. I personally liked the similarities in Star Wars to Zen Buhddism and Taosim. I prefer the Taoistic perspective on life, but the blending in the story was very well crafted. Science fiction isn't may favorite genre to read, although in my defense good science fiction is hard to come by. Some of the best science fiction was written by Jules Verne and H.G. Wells, and of course Isaac Asimov. But I think science fiction will, more than fantasy, always have different religions in it.

Hey Chris,
I have no problem with spoilers being present, I just don't want to be spoiled in this instance :)

I'll star it in google reader and check it out once I've seen the end of the show :)

I've never seen any of those shows. I think my nerd card needs to be confiscated.

Remember Arthur C. Clarke's line "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"?

I prefer the corollory. "Any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced."

Haha Peter :)

"Any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced."

Very good, oh very good :D

Posted a link to this post on facebook, here is a bit of resulting convo relating to definitions:
FRIEND: "ach, good science fiction is a critique or comment on today, using a different reality to exagerate the problems/consequences or as a basis to make the story more universal."

ME:"So any science fiction that doesn't reflect on contemporaneous issues is necessarily bad? I suppose that's on a par with saying that one should write about what one knows, which is good advice to start off with but shouldn't be an ultimate limit..."

ps intend to begin posting again soon. Yay.

Hi all!

James Swezey: new voice - passing through, or planning to stop by for the serial? Or are you a lurker? :) I find it fascinating that you consider the "good" science fiction to be the Golden Age stuff. It all reads quite clunkily to me - I prefer the cyberpunk and post-cyberpunk science fiction for the most part, although recently I have stopped reading fiction altogether, alas.

Sirc: "I've never seen any of those shows. I think my nerd card needs to be confiscated."
You've not seen *anything* that's going to be in this serial? Really? Never mind confiscating your nerd card, the nerd police will be coming to get you shortly! :p

zenBen: I agree with "FRIEND" that the best science fiction is a critique or commentary on today - but I would counter in this regard that this is true of *all* fiction, and is not unique to science fiction. But of course, all this is really saying is that good fiction is about people. :)

Best wishes!

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