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Firstly, I enjoyed these in depth examinations of yours. Secondly, I find it strange that you defend religious extremists, yet continuously attack extreme atheism as something vile.

C..: Thanks for your question; perhaps I can clarify.

I defend religious extremists when they are being attacked in such a way that their rights (under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights) are violated, or that someone is suggesting that their rights be thus violated. If the rights of extreme atheists were similarly threatened I would defend them too - but to date, I have not really encountered this situation.

If I seem to be excessively attacking extreme atheism, that is probably because this camp represents a rather large proportion of the people who are proposing violation of human rights in the context of religion.

Now of course, religious extremists are also often involved in attacks on religion in the context of *other* religions or creeds, but frankly since we all (barring these extremists) abominate this, it usually doesn't seem worth my while to mention it. :)

On the other hand, I often find no-one else (especially in the UK where I live) cares about attacks on religion, so I feel duty bound to draw attention to this sort of thing when I encounter it.

Finally, I want to say that I do not believe atheism is vile - there are plenty of people here at Only a Game who do not believe in a God of any kind, and that's their business as free individuals; I don't mind what people choose as their own metaphysical beliefs - that's up to them.

I do, however, feel it is vile when a person sets out to deny the religious freedoms of other people, and especially when they do so under the guise of progress or rationality or any other such standard which can cloak their bigotry in a patina of respectability.

If you have any further questions in this regard, I will be happy to discuss it with you.

Best wishes!

Thanks for the clarification. I understand where you are coming from.

Loving the series, didn't read this one yet but saw this:

"It is generally accepted that all three of the Abrahamic faiths inherited this idea of good and evil from the prophet Zarathustra"

Cite? Or rather - bollocks (I hope a robust tone is not taken as hostile, it's not :D ) It may be true (I have my doubts) but is certainly isn't generally accepted. Who are you hanging around with if they've given you that impression of the world (And who suggested it would be a good idea to generalise from whoever you're thinking about to 'generally' everyone?)

Ender: I'll admit, there is disagreement on this point; I may have overstepped the mark that it's generally accepted. (Obviously fundamentalist Christians etc. don't acknowledge this connection, and I was referring to the scholarly community ;> )

The obvious point of reference for me is Nietzsche - the whole point of his choosing Zarathustra in his polemic was his idea that if Zarathustra had not laid down the ideas of good and evil, it would never have come about. I could also point you to Rowley & Black's "Peake's Commentary on the Bible" (1982) or the entry on "Zoroastrianism" in Encyclopedia Americana, and I have a feeling Ninian Smart makes a similar claim (but I'm not sure where).

Since writing this, I've begun to wonder about the influences of Indo-Iranian religions; the Vedic scriptures don't expressly use good and evil in the way that Zoroastrianism or the Abrahamic faiths do, but there's some common influence here.

On the whole, I don't retract my remark, but I do admit that it overstates its case! :)

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